TWO QUESTIONS ABOUT CREATION. Young Earth (YEC) vs. Old Earth Creation (OEC): Did God lie in “YEC” because newly created things look old, and they are NOT? Does “OEC” conflict with Scripture?

I was recently confronted by an “Old Earth Creation” (OEC) Christian with the challenge: “I don’t believe in a Young Earth, because God lied in Genesis since newly created things look old, and they are NOT!

I responded.  “You made a false assumption in your objection to “Young Earth Creation” (YEC).  God is not deceptive, but God is outside of time. You assumed the age of anything can be determined from its present state, which is called Uniformitarianism. This is NOT true. When God creates, the item appears older than it is because of that false assumption. For example, when Adam was one second old, how old did he appear 18, 20?  When God created the fruit trees, they were ready to bear fruit. That takes YEARS from the seed. When Jesus changed the water into wine, it was splendid wine. The only way we can get good wine is to age it. Uniformitarianism is a false assumption!   When God creates, the objects have an appearance of age.  That’s not deceptive.  You have been led astray because you made that false assumption.”

Then I said: “Also OEC is inconsistent with theology taught by Scripture.”  He disagreed.  So, I continued: “The OEC position directly violates God’s word at least twice. These conflicts are real and not an interpretation of the meaning of the words of Scripture. These two are:

First, Death in Creation before Adam sins in Genesis 3 and

 Second, an imperfect Creation before the end of Day Six.

Both are violations of the nature and character of God as He revealed Himself in Scripture.  There are other indirect Biblical reasons, but they are not as compelling as these two. For example: why did God give us the genealogies in Genesis 5 and 11 and Luke and Matthew if dating isn’t important?”

A Caveat.  I don’t believe that Christians that hold the OEC position are not saved, but that that belief is inconsistent with what the Bible teaches. Believers understanding of God is imperfect because we are sinners. I implore those accept OEC to be receptive to the teaching of God’s Word. Remember, in my journey I was first an Atheistic Evolutionist, and then a Theistic Evolutionist, then I considered gap, day-age, long days, etc. and finally arrived at the “Young Earth” position three years after my conversion. It took an extended study of both Scripture and science to become a YEC.  I went through a process of Evolution in my life, from Atheistic Evolutionist to Young Earth Creationist! He left promising to consider what I said.  I pray he does.

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Charlie is the author of three books and seven short stories published on Amazon, Kindle.

Three Books: 1) “Always Be Ready to Give an Answer!  A Former Atheist’s Personal Christian Evangelism Plan.”  2) ANSWERS For “The Hope That Is in You.  Direct, Simple Answers to the World’s “Hard” Questions” Both at http://yourchristiananswers.com  3) “Without 3 Miracles Darwin’s Dead!  Science Proves Atheistic Evolution is IMPOSSIBLE.”  Available at http://www.w3mdarwinsdead.com

Amazon/Kindle short stories written by Charlie Liebert: 1) The Memory Tree. A Christmas Story.  2) Helene at Mama Henney’s Boarding School for Girls.  3) Lost in Yellowstone: Sarah Johanson disappears without a trace.  4) Yellowstone’s Child: “Who am I? Sarah Johanson, Sally Graham, Sally Johnson or Detective Elaine Scott.”   NO! She’s Yellowstone’s Child.  5) One Android, 399 lives: 59th Street Terrorist Attack Kills 399. 6) Rosemarie, Kristallnacht Transformation. How my twice Jewish Aunt survived the Holocaust 7) The Curse of the Witch of Zahlendorf.  Der Fluch der Hexe von Zahlendorf.

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Biblical reasons for the Young Earth Creation Position!

As we begin a new year, I felt it appropriate that I start with two Biblical reasons why I take the “Young Earth Creation” (YEC) position. I do NOT take it because of science since science is an interpretation of evidence, and can change as new evidence appears. I use ONLY Biblical reasoning when someone asks about my “Young Earth” position. Science does, in fact, verify the young Earth, but that’s not the question I’ll answer here. The two Biblical reasons are:

1) The Bible is clear that death was a direct result of Adam’s sin, yet all the “old Earth” positions have death in the creation long before Adam’s sin because they accommodate the long ages REQUIRED for Evolution. Their proponents argue that the death that came by Adam was only spiritual death, however, then you have to explain how we can have a better place in the new Heaven and Earth than Adam had if animal death was present in Eden. Remember in the new creation (a restored Eden); “the lion will lie down with the lamb.”  All the animals will be herbivores. That could not happen in the “old Earth” world before Adam appeared because animals would have killed and eaten each other. God would have used death and struggle as a POSITIVE process to gain improvement in all the old Earth scenarios. Death then would be a creative process employed by God. That’s what Evolution and NOT what the Bible says about death. A God, who uses death as a creative force, is NOT the God of Scripture!!!

2) At the end of each day of creation, God says his creative process is good. At the end of the sixth day, Scripture states: “Then God saw everything that He hath made, and behold it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.” Genesis 1:31 EVERYTHING was VERY GOOD. This expression implies a perfect Creation with no sin, death, rebellion, etc.  Most “old Earth” processes have the fall of Satan, death, sin, and all other kinds of imperfection present before the end of day six. That would imply that the clear statement of Scripture either wasn’t “everything that He had made” or it wasn’t “very good.” In the last chapter of Revelation, Jesus says: “He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.” No more death! Everything is “very good.” You can’t have any form of imperfection before the end of the sixth because its presence would be in direct conflict with the clear words of Scripture “everything was very good.”

How do you get an age of 6,000 years from the Bible?

The Bible gives a chronological account of history starting at the beginning. If you count back using the genealogies and from known history, you get a creation date of 4004 BC. Bishop Ussher calculated this from the genealogies in Genesis. So, the total age of the Universe is slightly more than 6000 years.

Charlie is the author of three books and seven short stories published on Amazon, Kindle.

Three Books: 1) “Always Be Ready to Give an Answer!  A Former Atheist’s Personal Christian Evangelism Plan.”  2) ANSWERS For “The Hope That Is in You.  Direct, Simple Answers to the World’s “Hard” Questions” Both at http://yourchristiananswers.com  3) “Without 3 Miracles Darwin’s Dead!  Science Proves Atheistic Evolution is IMPOSSIBLE.”  Available at http://www.w3mdarwinsdead.com

Amazon/Kindle short stories written by Charlie Liebert: 1) The Memory Tree. A Christmas Story.  2) Helene at Mama Henney’s Boarding School for Girls.  3) Lost in Yellowstone: Sarah Johanson disappears without a trace.  4) Yellowstone’s Child: “Who am I? Sarah Johanson, Sally Graham, Sally Johnson or Detective Elaine Scott.”   NO! She’s Yellowstone’s Child.  5) One Android, 399 lives: 59th Street Terrorist Attack Kills 399. 6) Rosemarie, Kristallnacht Transformation. How my twice Jewish Aunt survived the Holocaust 7) The Curse of the Witch of Zahlendorf.  Der Fluch der Hexe von Zahlendorf.

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Mt. St Helens & Grand Tetons Evidence for a Young Earth

I did 2 hours of radio on “Iron Sharpens Iron” http://www.ironsharpensironradio.com this week with Chris Arnzen, Buz Taylor and Dr. Tas Walker from CMI (Creation Ministries International – Creation.com). Our subject was Geology and a Young Earth. Although I mentioned these geological formations recently, based on the listener questions on ISI I wanted to cover them again. This week’s blog highlights two of the hundreds of examples in geology that point to a Young Earth.

Mt. St. Helen’s eruption is evidence for a Young Earth

When Mt. Saint Helens erupted in 1980 it produced two significant effects: 1) evidence for the rapid formation of geological features and 2) rapid erosion to form canyons.

1) Rapid Formation. Hundreds of feet of sediment were laid down in days that have the appearance of long ages of geologic time because of thousands of thin layers. In many geological texts, you’ll find each layer is counted as a yearly cycle, but here they were formed in days.

2) Rapid Erosion. A canyon formed in less than two days that is 1/40 the size of Grand Canyon and appears old. Other canyons formed in days include a river that did not cause it but is an artifact of its formation.

Fossil forests are forming in Spirit Lake that has a striking similarity in appearance to Specimen Ridge in Yellowstone Park. These events are powerful evidence that catastrophic events can occur in short periods of time rather than the traditional long geologic ages taught in colleges and universities.

The Grand Tetons are very young mountains.

If you go to Grand Teton National Park, the rangers will tell you that those mountains rose to their present position over a period of 20 million years. Over this 20 million years there is supposed to be about 20,000 feet of mountains eroded (1,000 feet per million years). When you hike in the Teton’s passes, you see many broken rocks but little sand or fine material that would indicate extended periods of erosion. The plain at the foot of these peaks contains many beautiful lakes that show a lot of exposed rock and shallow soil layers. There is no sign of the vast amount of material that should be there after 20 million years of erosion. These mountains appear to be young, not old.

Other examples are the Colorado River, Bryce Canyon, Cedar Breaks & Grand Canyon. https://answersingenesis.org/geology/grand-canyon-facts/when-and-how-did-the-grand-canyon-form/

Next time you go to a national park look around and ask the rangers questions based on the young earth model. For example: “Was the Grand Canyon caused by a lot of water and a little time instead of a lot of time and a little water?” http://charlieliebert.blog

Next week I’ll start a series that deconstructs the Materialists argument that states: “All I can believe is what I can sense.”

Charlie is the author of “Always Be Ready to Give an Answer! A Former Atheist’s Personal Christian Evangelism Plan.” which develops an evangelism strategy that gets to the Gospel every time you witness. His second book ANSWERS For “The Hope That Is In You.” contains answers to more than 100 questions skeptics use to try to stump Christians. The third book, “Without 3 Miracles Darwin’s DEAD!” is currently in the final editing process and will be published later this year. http://yourchristiananswers.com

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Radioactive dating does NOT prove Evolution.

One of the most common claims proponents of Evolution make is that radiometric dating shows an Earth that is billions of years old. Science can’t prove past events! If they could, we would not need juries in criminal trials. The evidence alone would be sufficient. It NEVER is. Fallible human beings with particular worldviews must interpret the evidence presented to the jury. For example, an Atheist could never accept Creation because it implies God and that conflicts with all he believes. Radioactive dating methods make unprovable assumptions about the past. Also, C14 dating can only go back 50,000 years, so it is no help for billions of years old Earth.

What are the assumptions of Radioactive Dating?

Radioactive dating, in general, depends on three major assumptions:

  1. 1) When the rock forms (hardens) there should only be radioactive parent atoms in the rock and no daughter radiogenic element (derived by radioactive decay) atoms.
  2. 2) After hardening, the rock must remain a closed system, that is, no parent or daughter atoms can be added or removed from the rock by external influences such as percolating ground water; and
  3. 3) the radioactive decay rate must remain constant for the period measured.

These assumptions have been proven inconsistent and sometimes untrue in many cases. The RATE study published by ICR is an excellent resource to enumerate these inconsistencies. If any of the three assumptions is false, then the method fails, and ‘dates’ will be wrong. For example; leaching in the rocks, varying isotope ratios, etc. show the methods at best are unreliable. Dr. Steve Austin at ICR tested rocks from the bottom and top of Grand Canyon. Three of the four methods revealed that the bottom rocks were younger than the upper rocks an IMPOSSIBLE conclusion. Radiological tests date rocks that were liquid and have turned solid. BTW these rocks never contain fossils. The fossil-bearing rock is sedimentary (laid down underwater in Noah’s flood). Evolutionists consistently disregard radiometric dates that conflict with their time scheme. If a particular dating measurement doesn’t support Evolution, it’s thrown away.

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Doesn’t Carbon Dating Prove the Earth is old?

Carbon Dating is a radiological dating method often cited to “prove” Evolution. It does not because:

1) As a method, it can only extend to 50,000 years not millions of years,

2) C14 can only date tissue, not fossils (stone impressions of bones). When you find, and we have, real dinosaur bones containing viable tissue, it is a testimony to Creation because biological tissue won’t last millions of years.

3) Carbon 14 is not in balance in the atmosphere indicating a young one, not an old one.

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Creation’s Young Earth and an “Old Looking” Universe

There are at least three explanations that Creationists have used to explain how this Universe that looks millions or billions of years old can be only 6,000 years young: 1) Young Earth Cosmology, 2) Creation Fully Formed and 3) Decreasing Light Speed.

1) Young Earth Cosmology. The newest one developed by Dr. Russ Humphreys is the most satisfactory. He proposes using Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity and changing the assumptions from the “Big Bang” model to derive a young universe. The foundation of “Big Bang” cosmology is Einstein’s Theory of Relativity. To get the equations of the theory to work for a Big Bang a series of assumptions (parameters) have to be accepted. These are; the Universe contains no boundaries, size is infinite, it has no edge, it has no center of mass, it has a uniform distribution of matter, and there is no net gravity effect. These assumptions are in direct contradiction to the observations we make in the Universe. For example, it is VERY lumpy and does NOT have a uniform distribution of mass. When you set the parameters in Einstein’s theory to conform to Humphries model you will get an expanding Universe that looks old but is young. This Young Earth Cosmology is described in the book “Starlight and Time” by Dr. Russ Humphries. The other two are decreasing the speed of light and Creation with an appearance of age.

2) Creation Fully Formed. A second explanation is that God made the creation fully functioning, and the light from long distances was put in place at the moment of creation. Everything is complete from the very start.

3) Decreasing Light Speed. Finally, the third is that when God created light on day one, the speed of light was almost infinite but has slowed to the current speed today. If this is true then using light speed to measure distance is not feasible.

Incidentally, 90% of the mass needed for the Big Bang model is missing. Astronomers call it cold, dark matter; can’t see it, can’t find it but it MUST be there if the Big Bang is real, incredible faith, but poor science.

4) Is Time Eternal?

God existed in eternity without space/matter/time. The first verse of Genesis indicates the first thing God did was start time. “In the beginning,” time starts first, and then God creates the physical Universe. In eternity, there was nothing but God. Einstein’s Theory of Relativity indicates time had a beginning. Time is NOT ETERNAL; it has a beginning and will have an end.

Charlie is the author of “Always Be Ready to Give an Answer! A Former Atheist’s Personal Christian Evangelism Plan.” which develops an evangelism strategy that gets to the Gospel every time you witness. His second book ANSWERS For “The Hope That Is In You.” contains answers to more than 100 questions skeptics use to try to stump Christians. The third book, “Without 3 Miracles Darwin’s DEAD!” is currently in the final editing process and will be published later this year. http://yourchristiananswers.com

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Did God create in six days, actually, six regular days?

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At my Creation seminars, during the Q&A session, I am often asked if it is necessary to believe in six literal days of creation to be a Christian? Rather than being dogmatic I answer. “If you believe the Bible is true then you must subordinate all other of information sources to second place. So, if science seems to contradict Scripture then it must be science that is wrong.” WOW, that often gets some pretty powerful reactions. Then I say: “Since no man was present at the beginning of Creation we can only guess what happened, but since God was there and told us what happened we should believe God, not men.” Some people still want to equivocate so then I say: “Let’s go to Genesis and see what it says: In Genesis chapter 1 the Scriptures teach that God created the universe and everything in it in six days. The language in Genesis, the sequence of events, and the findings of modern science all confirm the Earth is young, about 6,000 years, and these six days are one full Earth rotation each just like our days today.”

It is essential for Christians to accept a six 24-hour day Creation not because of science but because of the theological implications of the other Christian compromise understandings. It is the Bible and not science on which our knowledge must rest. Compromises like the gap theory, day ages or ruin/restoration suffer from a fatal theological flaw – physical death in Creation before Adam’s sin. At the end of each day God says his creative process is good and at the end of day six, He says; “Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.” (Genesis 1:31) God said: “EVERYTHING was VERY GOOD.” In the original language, this means Creation is both complete and perfect. If any of the above compromises are true, then death is present before sin appears in Genesis chapter 3 and therefore, at the end of day six, God declared physical death to be very good. By implication the new Creation, which is the original creation restored, described by the prophets and the book of Revelation will then contain physical death. The Scriptures clearly teach that redemption includes the elimination of all death from the New Heavens and Earth. A perfect world restored!!! You cannot have death before sin and be consistent with the Bible. Yes God did it in six regular days. Christians who don’t want to believe it will fabricate all kinds of arguments to avoid this obvious conclusion. God has redeemed us from DEATH and death will be cast into the lake of fire!!! Death will be dead forever. I know this blog contains some pretty strong statements, but Jesus made strong statements when asked questions that challenged God’s Word, and often went back to Genesis for answers. So must we!

This blog is question #78 from my book ANSWERS For “The Hope That Is In You.” This book contains answers to 106 questions Christians are asked by the unbelieving world. Charlie is also the author of Always Be Ready to Give an Answer! http://yourchristiananswers.com

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Why I believe this BIG Universe is only 6,000 Years Old?

The age of the Universe is a major area of disagreement between Biblical Creationists and those that believe it is billions of years old. “Old Earthers” include Evolutionists, Atheistic, and religious, and Old Earth Creationists. I believe in a young Earth because of what the Bible says, but I want to understand it using science. Here are three scientific explanations that Young Earth Creationists use.

1) Decreasing the speed of light. When God created light on day one, the speed of light was almost infinite but has slowed to its current speed today making all distance measurements using light speed significantly overstated.

2) Creation with the appearance of age. Creation was made fully functioning, and the light from long distances was put in place at the moment of creation, just

3) Young Earth Cosmology developed by Dr. R. Humphreys, published in “Starlight and Time.” Using Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity and changing the assumptions from the “Big Bang” model he creation of a young universe that appears old. To get the equations to work for the Big Bang a series of assumptions (parameters) have to be set in the equations. These are; the 1) Universe contains no boundaries, 2) size is infinite, 3) has no edge, 4) no center of mass, 5) uniform distribution of matter, and 6) no net gravity effect. These assumptions are in direct contradiction to scientific observations. For example, it is VERY lumpy and does NOT have a uniform distribution of mass. When you set parameters in Einstein’s theory to conform to observed science, you get a young expanding Universe that appears old.

Here are two Biblical reasons I believe in a “Young Earth”:

1) The Bible is clear that death is a direct result of Adam’s sin, yet allcause they are accommodatingGod would have used death and struggle as a POSITIVE process to make progress in all the old Earth scenarios. That’s what evolution and NOT what the Bible says about death. A God, who uses death, is NOT the God of Scripture!!!

2) At the end of each Creation day, God says his process is good. At the end of the sixth day, Scripture says: “Then God saw everything that He hath made, and behold it was very good.” EVERYTHING was VERY GOOD. This expression implies a perfect Creation with no sin, death, rebellion, etc. “Old Earth” processes have the fall of Satan, death, sin, and all other kinds of imperfection present before the end of day six implying that the clear statement of Scripture either wasn’t “everything that He had made” or it wasn’t “very good. You can’t have any sin before the end of the sixth day because it’s in direct conflict with the clear words of Scripture.

Lesson: A young Universe, about 6,000 years old, is both Biblically and Scientifically sound. Christians can believe it with confidence.

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